God.

[Xentoes]

Well, I've always thought this and wanted to hear some opinions.
So first off, I am a Christian, and believe in God. But , for people who don't believe in God ( or a God), lets say you were wrong, and then you'll be going to hell.


We'll lets say I'M wrong, what happens? Absolutely nothing. So why don't you just believe in a case that your wrong? [ Which I believe you are. ]







*No offense to anybody if it was taken.

 

[Wolfhound]

Because saying "I believe there is a god because if I'm right it's good and if I'm wrong it's neutral" isn't really believing in god. You can't just force yourself to really believe something because of logic like that, you can only force yourself to say you believe.

 

[The Man In Black]

I do not approve of this topic. >_>

 

[Sabre]

I do not approve of this topic. >_>

I do, I can't wait to get lulz from Netrogor's posts.

 

[villager]

Awesome, I was kind of hoping for a thread like this

Right now I'm taking a World Religion class in college and I personally think that Religions could potentially be extremely helpful and have some positive effects, but because of fundamentalist and people who just have no idea what they're religion is about gives the general idea of religion a horrible name.

For example, Muslims believe in non-harming and contrary to popular belief, equality between men and women (As advocated by Mohammad). Muslim fundamentalists are not properly educated in their own religion and they're the ones who gives their religion a savage impression, especially in the west.

I'm an Atheist for my own personal reasons (too indepth to get into) but if I was wrong, I would be disappointed that a God worth worshipping would punish me because of my experience (or lack of) in the chance to develop a belief. (one of my reasons why I am an Atheist)

 

[Sabre]

I consider myself a Deist of sorts, in that I think that while there is some sort of god(or gods), he/she/they created the universe and then set it into motion, and have since assumed a passive role, allowing the governing laws of the universe to do their thing. I don't really think there's much of an afterlife, if anything I think that reincarnation is plausible moreso than a 'heaven' or 'hell.'

 

[Blasto121]

hah the talk about god.

It makes me laugh because most religions state that by not believing in their god everyone else will go to hell.

So in the end everyone is going to hell.

 

[FER]

Play a translated rom of a SNES game called "shin megami tensei". Awesome view about religion

 

[The Man In Black]

hah the talk about god.

It makes me laugh because most religions state that by not believing in their god everyone else will go to hell.

So in the end everyone is going to hell.

/me facepalms.

I seriously hate everyone who says that. It's such flawed logic it hurts. >_<

 

[Sabre]

hah the talk about god.

It makes me laugh because most religions state that by not believing in their god everyone else will go to hell.

So in the end everyone is going to hell.

/me facepalms.

I seriously hate everyone who says that. It's such flawed logic it hurts. >_<

WELL I THINK THERE IS NO GOD SO WERE ALL GOING TO ROT IN THE GROUND ^^

 

[Dridmar]

I agree with you Sabre!
Rotting in the ground for the win!

 

[Markkanen]

YAY! Ground rotting for everyone!

 

[Thothie]

People who fail to use the search button will go to hell

 

[The Man In Black]

As I mentioned elsewhere, the search feature of these forums does not work properly. If my theory is correct, it cannot find posts from before the forum change.

 

[Blasto121]

hah the talk about god.

It makes me laugh because most religions state that by not believing in their god everyone else will go to hell.

So in the end everyone is going to hell.

/me facepalms.

I seriously hate everyone who says that. It's such flawed logic it hurts. >_<

its not that flawed actually, so I don't know why it would hurt you. I said in general, clearly most eastern "religions" aren't technically religions but ways of life. However the dominant religions in the state have it that if you don't believe in there god you must be going to hell. I have had many a religious group try and convert me to there side like its the only salvation.

Its that simple, now in the end if there really is a god I could care less as the whole thing about organized religion just kind of makes me laugh. When done right it can be a strong empowering object, however most of times its turned into some crusade to harm other people. Seriously people who are practicing pagans are still hunted down and lynched.

 

[J-M v2.5.5]

Hi.
I don't believe in god.
I'm out of this thread.

 

[Jelly]

I don't believe in God, because one of my friends discovered the (IMHO) real story of how the universe was created.

 

[J-M v2.5.5]

It was the giant magic turtle, right?

 

[The Man In Black]

Blasto, you enforced the parts of your post that are facts while completely skimming over the part that hurts me. Let's say, no offense to any other religion, that Christianity is correct. Just because Judaism says I, as a Christian, am going to hell does not make it so. I would be going to Heaven. Vice versa, if, again, no offense to any other religion, Judaism is correct, I would be going to hell because of my beliefs, but they would not go to hell for my beliefs.

This idea of "lul u go to hell" "no u go to hel" " we mst bth go 2 hel" makes no f*cking sense!

 

[Netrogor]

I do not approve of this topic. >_>

I do, I can't wait to get lulz from Netrogor's posts.

I can't wait to see Sabre's flame-baiting, I'm going to get mad lulz. Oops, too late, he already did!

@ MiB
It is rather obvious that Blasto is picking fun at how the dominant religious powerhouses of the world condemn each other in a ploy for more followers, rather than making an attempt at discovering which one is the right one... didn't think you'd reach into a toilet so far, MiB. I really didn't...

Anybody who logically reviews a major religious institution can tell its purpose is meant more for the centralizing of power, than for providing people security for some form of an 'afterlife'.
A shitty example is L. Ron Hubbard's 'Scientology'. Lord Xenu, the alien warlord who controls all non-Scientologists, demands the blood of Scientologists' babies!
An excellent example is Judaism/Christianity/Islam... depending on who you will acknowledge to be a 'prophet' or 'child of God', you'll end up in one of those three, and condemn whichever ones you didn't go to; despite having the same 'God'.

As to my religious beliefs, I've already posted them on these forums... under Questions about Death.

Look forward to death, for death is the end of your necessity to discharge yourself and all of the energy you may accumulate. I full well believe that when I die, I'll become nothing more than a resource depot for bacteria and other microorganisms. Doesn't stop me from enjoying life, though; just an acknowledgment of what is to come. Nonetheless, I'll be relieved once I'm done enjoying myself.

 

[The Man In Black]

I'm not sure what makes me /blink more; Blasto's view on how we're all going to hell, Your misunderstanding of what both of us are saying, or the fact that, even in a civilized argument, you still feel the need to insult me. I did nothing to insult you in my post, and have avoided flaming you throughout the forums, though I would have liked to join in some of the more lulzier ones.

Do me a favor: KTFP when we're trying to have a (gasp) SERIOUS DISCUSSION.

 

[Netrogor]

It makes me laugh because most religions state that by not believing in their god everyone else will go to hell.

So in the end everyone is going to hell.

I seriously hate everyone who says that. It's such flawed logic it hurts.

its not that flawed actually, so I don't know why it would hurt you.

This idea of "lul u go to hell" "no u go to hel" " we mst bth go 2 hel" makes no f*cking sense!

It makes me laugh because most religions state that by not believing in their god everyone else will go to hell.

It is rather obvious that Blasto is picking fun at how the dominant religious powerhouses of the world condemn each other in a ploy for more followers, rather than making an attempt at discovering which one is the right one...

I don't think either of us know what Blasto was trying to say, precisely. The miscommunication seems to have started between you two.

So, I repeat, you grabbed in a toilet.

EDIT:
After finally getting the quote pieces to actually post with my reply... it is done (MSC forums have been buggy of late).

 

[Blasto121]

Netrogor understands where I was coming from, not that your point isn't valid. In the end a persons beliefs won't actually effect another person. However if you look at all religions at the same time from a neutral stance, in general you as the person according to most religions will go to hell.

Clearly if you believe in something your going to be immune to this, but from my point I am affected by this.

 

[Netrogor]

Some religions seem to be under the impression that their 'God' actively watches over humanity, and is all powerful, and all knowing. Going by those standards, 'God' put me on this planet to test the faith of others, by denouncing his name. Under that logic, if I am proven wrong, and there is a Heaven and Hell, I have faithfully served my purpose through testing the faith of others, and will go to Heaven. Yea, that is awesome. Don't believe in 'God', but still have a secure out if you turn out to be wrong... 8)
That applies to Atheists and similar-to-but-not-Atheists alike.

 

[Sabre]

Ah, but denouncing the faiths of others, however you slice it, still makes you look like a pompous ass