openMW multiplayer

[ceriux]

so open morrowind might have multiplayer support. might be a good new engine for msc to move to =)

http://www.moddb.com/engines/openmw

 

[Monika's_BFFEx0256]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

 

[zeus9860]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

 

[ceriux]

zeus i dont see why it would be a bad idea. the games have similar mechanics, the openmw engine will be OPEN source and even compatible with already existing mods. so, it should be fairly easy to make as well.

 

[Regorty]

zeus i dont see why it would be a bad idea. the games have similar mechanics, the openmw engine will be OPEN source and even compatible with already existing mods. so, it should be fairly easy to make as well.

So, basically there could be a port of MSC to MW or just use the engine to power MSC so you wouldn't have to deal with GldSrc issues anymore?

 

[zeus9860]

zeus i dont see why it would be a bad idea. the games have similar mechanics, the openmw engine will be OPEN source and even compatible with already existing mods. so, it should be fairly easy to make as well.

I never said it would be a bad idea.

Though begging and posting an image of someone praying is a bad idea, it ruins stuff.

 

[ceriux]

zeus i dont see why it would be a bad idea. the games have similar mechanics, the openmw engine will be OPEN source and even compatible with already existing mods. so, it should be fairly easy to make as well.

So, basically there could be a port of MSC to MW or just use the engine to power MSC so you wouldn't have to deal with GldSrc issues anymore?

basically a new mod of mastersword in the openmw engine. we could have a real rpg world with out loading screens and all the crappy limitations of goldsrc. i doubt there would be servers with like 10 people running around idk how they plan to do the multiplayer to be honest, at the moment the developers just list it as a possibility. but even being able to run around in a real rpg environment with like 4 people i think would be good enough. which either way it'll be open source so the player limit could always be changed. i just think if they really add the multiplayer to the engine it would be a great move for msc to jump on.

 

[Monika's_BFFEx0256]

zeus i dont see why it would be a bad idea. the games have similar mechanics, the openmw engine will be OPEN source and even compatible with already existing mods. so, it should be fairly easy to make as well.

I never said it would be a bad idea.

Though begging and posting an image of someone praying is a bad idea, it ruins stuff.

Suck my dick faggot I do what I want

 

[TheOysterHippopotami]

We wouldn't even need to worry about ripping off morrowind models if we go this route.

 

[zeus9860]

Suck my dick faggot I do what I want

>Implying that everyone does the same as you.

Nope. :roll:

 

[TheOysterHippopotami]

He does what he wants. And he wants you, zeus.

 

[zeus9860]

He does what he wants. And he wants you, zeus.

Kids shouldn't have that much liberty, otherwise they will rebel. Just like girls.

 

[Monika's_BFFEx0256]

He does what he wants. And he wants you, zeus.

And you're invited

 

[Thothie]

Converting a single player game to multiplayer is a coding nightmare, one that I've yet to see pulled off well. It certainly would be nice to see though.

I have NIF converters for Milkshape, so we could convert some of our models over. They don't do animations though, which would be a huge bugger. There maybe better converters for 3DSMax, that maybe FER could handle (I can't make heads nor tails of 3DSMax myself). I suppose our orcs wouldn't look too out of place among Morrowind graphics with some tweaking.

Maps would have to be redone from scratch. Morrowind maps are made up of groups of models though, so it may not be entirely outside the remaining team's skill set. It's tricky to align them proper though. The chrome caves in Nasharlwatitz are actually made up of several Morrowind cave models glued together, so it's not impossible - just really tricky.

 

[ceriux]

why not just use morrowind content?

 

[Thothie]

why not just use morrowind content?

Because then all your dwarves would have mechanical spider legs.





(But yeah, they do have orcs, at least... And we're already using their elves...)

 

[Orochi]

There are Dwarven Spectre models that could be reskinned to be actual dwarves.

 

[MS:C community]

Is this the thread where we talk about stealing yet even more content from Morrowind?

 

[zeus9860]

Is this the thread where we talk about stealing yet even more content from Morrowind?

Master Sword: Morrowind Continued.

Problem, officer?

 

[FER]

Converting a single player game to multiplayer is a coding nightmare, one that I've yet to see pulled off well. It certainly would be nice to see though.

I have NIF converters for Milkshape, so we could convert some of our models over. They don't do animations though, which would be a huge bugger. There maybe better converters for 3DSMax, that maybe FER could handle (I can't make heads nor tails of 3DSMax myself). I suppose our orcs wouldn't look too out of place among Morrowind graphics with some tweaking.

I actually did have a smd importer pluging for MAX (I think you can get it from the same guys who make jed's HLMV) tough it barely helped. Had way better results to just export as another format which escapes my mind right now (autodesksomething...) and I also believe same can be done with animations.
Also 3Dmax is far from being greek if you just stick to the tools that were available in milkshape3D (they are less buggy in MAX tough)

Maps would have to be redone from scratch. Morrowind maps are made up of groups of models though, so it may not be entirely outside the remaining team's skill set. It's tricky to align them proper though. The chrome caves in Nasharlwatitz are actually made up of several Morrowind cave models glued together, so it's not impossible - just really tricky.

Probably almost every modern game uses models for maps, except for the terrain, which probably make the task even easier as the modelers themselves could do part of it.
Also im not sure you should be so afraid of misaligned areas, its probably not like in HL maps were the minimal error makes it unplayable.
If anything it sounds far from tricky but rather a simplification of HL mapping and in general.

 

[Thothie]

In Unreal it's not so bad, as the models are all self contained, but in Morrowind, the models are made up of several conjoining sections, and while it's true, if they are off by a few units, it won't break compilage, but you will fall through the map at the break.

Not that it's a huge deal - more complicated to make the models themselves. Main concern would be whether this multi player code comes to fruition.

I dunno what it is about 3DSMax and the various spin offs, but I canna so much as reposition the camera. :\

 

[FER]

I dunno what it is about 3DSMax and the various spin offs, but I canna so much as reposition the camera. :\

Select mesh->right click->editable mesh->ms3d onsteroids

Also the thing to give models more quality is the "meshsmooth" modifier

 

[Thothie]

Yeah, I'm aware of the 3D selection interface - think Milkshape is the only 3D editor without one, being a bit half-assed (though you can use the Selection Editor Plugin, even if it's a bit clumsy). But 3DSMax just doesn't work intuitively for me - meh, I need to reinstall and fiddle with it some more I suppose. Half-Life1 is about the only thing Milkshape is good for these days.

 

[FER]

Eh no what I gave out was the command to get basic tools ones uses on ms3d (selecting vertexes, sides,etc. spliting them or welding them)

 

[ceriux]

I dunno what it is about 3DSMax and the various spin offs, but I canna so much as reposition the camera. :\

ctrl+r or middle click..