WW2:Lodagond-2/3/4 [REL]

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Export to map, close the RMF, and open the MAP file - I bet ya there's some funked up solid that's popping up in the map export that doesn't show in the RMF due to something, somewhere, being off grid. You'll have to delete the affected solid.
 

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YOU DONT GOT TIME TO MAKE A PROFILE
I'm going to kill someone.

The msarea_transition I added at the last second has been causing the problem.

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MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
I'm going insane.


It be done. ONWARDS :twisted:

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I love outdoors! Looks good. Nice textures.
 

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Once again Crow, you exceed my expectations (take it for whatever it's worth :p). Not just in quality, but in speed. You seem to be in a map frenzy, and I'm loving it.

As P said, the outdoors look nice.

And I love the look of the gate. I'm not sure wether it's the textures, the structure itself, or both. But something about it seems very realistic to me.
 

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{ThC}The Magical Bong, here. I'll be in the Master Sword group, if nowhere else.
 

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I once again offer my server 2u sur :D
 

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I'll come if I'm not busy (fat chance :p)
 

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I dunno if you've gotten to Maldora yet, but I can't promise his stability under the current patch (I didn't bother re-optimizing him in OCT2007a, since you said you weren't going to have him up.)

Also remember you'll also have to balance your map out with the Sorc Chief escort in mind. I hope to the gods he'll be ready in time... Trying to cram on that in addition to everything else. Very complicated script, needless to say.

I also need to make some more high end weapon scripts for your maps for prizes, of course (I wanted to add more to the previous map as well.)

Be sure to get to me, ASAP, on any other scripts you may need. (Ice lady boss, winter wolves, etc.) - there's not too many days left, and I'm not home much lately - plus I got a funeral and some other events to deal with, so I don't got much free time in these remaining days.
 

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Nah, aint to maldora quite yet, though should have loda 4 done before end of teh month.

As far as weaponz go, only need rewards fer mal, other maps before him are small and have no real bosses. (less we does ice lady... see pm)

I'll pm the rest of stuff I need to talk to ye aboot.

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Lookin good. Lets see a JAN release!
 

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I still have to say that I really dislike the fact that you copied parts from Someplace Else, Crow, even though it's open source. I expect you, of all mappers here, to make your own stuff.
 

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Cuz unlike you, Crow finishes maps from time to time. ;)
 

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I personally see no problem taking what is out there, with permission and using it. Are you going to blame our modelers for taking models? Blame the texturers for using standard textures along with textures from other maps?

I see the point in being 100% new and fresh and creative but what the hell. No offense to you and all the other people who work on maps, but crow comes out with in my opinion hit after hit. World Walker series one is the source for 70% of my levels and when I first discovered it, I had a blast, I felt challenged. Then I found Curse of the bear gods, and I liked it. Even the original sky castle was fun although easier than I had hoped. Then Lodagond-1 which even WITH all the patches to it, the multiple crashings and having groups of people just flailing themselves at the boss and being no help, I've had fun and been challenged.

If you are going to nag about people looking at something they can use and not using it, then be my guest. However if crow feels this fits his needs, then I applaud him for saving time and energy for once. Even if you and I don't feel it fits, then what's to say it doesn't. This isn't our vision, it's Crow's and if he wants to take an easier path with something that still works, then that's his choice.

Go, take the whole map and retexture/revamp/redo/whatever it J-M. If it fits your vision of a map, I won't complain a tad.

Creative Vision for the frikkin win.
 

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Hey! I create all my own stuff :(
 

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And I'm not saying that is a bad thing. However if a person see's something that fits, and they are able to use it then what is so wrong with taking it and using it?

I also do support 100% original maps :p I just don't mind people using whats out there if they want to and are able to, especially if they have permission to.
 

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I'm gonna have to agree with Thraxis. He makes a good point. If you haven't ever used ANYTHING, that someone else made, then I'd say you're wrong, but there's nothing wrong with it though. :p
 

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I am dreadfully sorry for not really liking copy+paste work.

I guess I won't mention the fact that the castle in Crow's highlands_msc is also actually copied from a different MS v1.35 map.

Crow's maps are amazingly good and if his vision of his next good map, as you put it, is partially a copy+paste job, then fine. Doesn't mean I'll have to agree with it though.
 

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I guess I won't mention the fact that the castle in Crow's highlands_msc is also actually copied from a different MS v1.35 map.

That's a lie actually... (Okay, a misperception) - The castle in Crow's map and the similar looking castle from another MSC map (the name of which escapes me atm) are actually scaled and structured entirely differently. Just because you use little blocks to make your battlements, doesn't mean you stole something. (I think we all did that with building blocks or legos in back kindergarten, tis kind of a natural response.)

J-M v2.5.5 said:
Hey, if I copy Someplace Else, retexture it and release it, will that count as well?
If you stick some monsters in too - YES! :p

Besides, aren't the only maps you've ever even offered to work on merely remake/copies of Crow's work? :p
 

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J-M v2.5.5 said:
I am dreadfully sorry for not really liking copy+paste work.

I guess I won't mention the fact that the castle in Crow's highlands_msc is also actually copied from a different MS v1.35 map.

Crow's maps are amazingly good and if his vision of his next good map, as you put it, is partially a copy+paste job, then fine. Doesn't mean I'll have to agree with it though.

We want releases, not whiners.
 
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