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Ok I was just playing MS trying to figure out wtf to do in challs and I am fighting the skeletons with the skull blade and I ve been learning different ways to attack like the side slice and then I don't know how or what I pushed and my guy stabs him in the stomach!(yea prolly lame for u guys bu sweet for me). It did 3 mor dmg than normal but it was so cool! I was wondering if any of you guys know the button combo in order to stab? If you could hook me up it would be great. THe second thing is...What am I supposed to do in challs? Ive found the 2 switches that open treasure chest walls but I swear there has to be something there! I mean especially the big orange door with the bat on it. Ive tried killing all the enemies but they just keep coming and coming. Can someone give me a little hint? pweez? Thanks guys!
 

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to do the stab combo all you need to do is press forward then click.

and with the challs you have done every thing you can in there
 

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Cool thanks. Man I figured there was something in there. It looks too big and guarded not to have something. I mean especially that orange door. I figured it would lead to like a boss like Lord Calrian. Man I can't wait for Ms Remake to come out! ITs already looking so awsome!
 

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Uh I tried pushing forward and it doesnt work....
 

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In my experience it's back, then forward, then click for thrust. Similarly you can strafe side to side for a side swing, which has a better chance of striking than your regular swing, and is faster, so you can combine it with another swing to slightly increase your attack rate. All these moves are difficult to do consistently, however. As a result I often wind up just circle strafing and clicking like mad. ;)

There's nothing much to do in this version of Challs, but I think the high difficulty version has a few more goals.
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If you talking about that big door after the winding, S-like tunnels that have rats and bats in it, there is something behind it. Usually you cant get in there cause the game spawns a rat in the wall or somewhere you cant get to it, which is important since all rats on the map have to be killed for the door to unlock. Beyond is a pitch-black cave with a bunch of spiders in it and at teh end a large circular room with more spiders and one HUGE one. Not Queen Atalack (sp) i think, but same size nonetheless. Kill it and a chest spawns with some stuff in it (dont remember what, been at least a year or two since ive been there), nothing really big i think. if something does spawn in that chest it must be the hardest to get cause of the door bug.
 

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Assuming you are speaking of the spiderqueen in Thornlands (as I'm sure there are no spiders in mscave) she often does not appear due to the chained monster spawn bug that plagues quite a few maps. A fixed version of Thornlands that solves that issue, and a few other minor ones, is available. It doesn't require that connecting clients redownload. You can find it... Eh... Wait... WTF... Where did it go? :\

I can't seem to find the Fixed Helena, and the other fixed maps thread... Hmmm... Maybe I shall re-create. Meanwhile... Here's these:

Fixed Thornlands (entire BSP)
Fixed Thornlands (ent file only)

Edit: oh, nvm, found it, but go ahead and use those links. The whole related thread is: here. Hmm... the website transition and the other mess in there did jumble it up quite a bit though, maybe I'll repost it sometime later anyways.
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I think it might be a good idea to have a "custom content links" thread, where everyone who has custom content posts download links (and descriptions and whatnot) to it, so its all in one easy-to-find place. this should get the stuff around alot faster since new poeple probably wouldnt know where to look, and this should help out the lazy poeple :D
 

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Thothie said:
Assuming you are speaking of the spiderqueen in Thornlands (as I'm sure there are no spiders in mscave) she often does not appear due to the chained monster spawn bug that plagues quite a few maps. A

Actually, i was referring to the Huge spider in Challs (spider king maybe?) beyond the bugged door that Link was reffering to in his origional post. Ive played MS since 1.2 or so (though i stopped for a while when everything was shot to hell and back :? ) but i started again cause 1: I missed it and 2: my World of Warcraft account is down atm :p Anyways, i still remember a lot of the tricks and the bugs (unfortunatly) so i might as well help as you new ppl out as much as i can.
 

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Eh? Oh... hmm... There may have been a spider at Challs back in 1.2, but sadly, he is no longer there in 1.35 (no spiders at all, looking at the ent file).

You don't see spider "kings" very often though, as usually the queen eats them after mating. ;)
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They took out the spiders in challs? hmm, going to have to take a trek over there and see for myself.
 

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NobleDragon said:
They took out the spiders in challs? hmm, going to have to take a trek over there and see for myself.
You're confusing two, or maybe three, or maybe even four maps.

The S-hallway with the locked door at the end and bats / rats spawning into walls is obviously calruin.
There are no spiders in challs. Maybe there were in previous versions, but not now.
A "spider-boss that isn't Atkalack" is a Giant Arachnid, found in thornlands and sfor.

Yup, four maps O_O
 

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Your right, it is calruin that has the door and such. heh, im going to have to go and look at all the maps again so i dont sound like an idiot in the future. :p
 

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I dont even see the point of that door being there in calruins because after you kill the queen spider you don't get any thing out of it,

so let this also be a suggestion to the devs
 

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There's a chest back there... Granted you don't actually have to kill her to get at it, although if you are on your own, you're not getting it without a fight. ;)
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