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Original Midis

Discussion in 'Music/Sounds' started by furion001, Feb 2, 2010.

  1. furion001

    furion001 New Adventurer Shadows of Torkalath

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    I seem to have noticed how there aren't any midis in mu music folder but the game keeps calling for them.. were there supposed to be midis? and if so can I get them? I want to try to resample them through my FL Studio That way we don't have to mid sounding songs.. Like Ara and Aleyesu
     
  2. J

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    Ara's music doesn't use MIDI. It uses a sample-based format, and looking at the pack, the samples were taken from Yamaha DX27, Roland D50 and Korg X5. A conversion might be possible, but it'd require some work.

    Edit: I'd also like to point out that I wrote the tune in 10 minutes, which is why it's so crappy :|
     
  3. furion001

    furion001 New Adventurer Shadows of Torkalath

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    My apologies then. I didn't know the original maker of the music for Ara was still active.. heh *shakes hand* Sorry ^^;
     
  4. J

    J New Adventurer

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    No need to apologize
     
  5. HVR

    HVR New Adventurer

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    Sydrec claims to have decay.mid for mscave.
    Sydrec says lots of things so I shouldn't be talking.
    Speaking of midis, I recently discovered Edirol Orchestral.
     
  6. Thothie

    Thothie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator Developer

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    All the Lanethan original music was originally MIDI, and I believe it's all been converted. I think there's some hold overs that aren't his... Not sure if I have the original MIDI's (I lost a lot of ancient-archive stuff in the Great Crash of 09), but I do have an excess of music for MSC just laying about.

    Most of the maps that still have MIDI's are very old.

    DOS Find gives me...

    So, in short, I've everything but mskeledrosdeep, and mskeledros, both of which seem to be covered.

    For the fun of it, I'm going to toss in the MIDI sources for most of our stuff, as well as a bunch of MIDI's that were never used or created for other purposes. (A few of which, are actually mine - probably made before about half our players were born. :/)

    A lot of these, including several in the FIND search, may not be worth translating though. Again, I've a mess load of music waiting to be used that might fair better... Not that I'd waste many of them on the ms_quest series though.

    I've included the MP3's of most of those that have already been rendered, so you can compare your work against them:
    MIDI lost and Found (25MB)
     
  7. furion001

    furion001 New Adventurer Shadows of Torkalath

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    Ah! Thanks! I'll see what I can do with these (When I can get ahold of some proper wave samples of instruments)

    Thanks for your help Thothie!
     
  8. HVR

    HVR New Adventurer

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  9. TheOysterHippopotami

    TheOysterHippopotami Adventurer Source Developer Developer DarkTide RiP

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    How many of these are original Lanethan tunes, if any? None of these are marked ms_ but many of them sound like they could have been made by him.
     
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  10. Thothie

    Thothie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator Developer

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    All except tunel and drunken, I believe.
     
  11. TheOysterHippopotami

    TheOysterHippopotami Adventurer Source Developer Developer DarkTide RiP

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    I assume there are more unmarked Lanethan songs in that ye ancient midis folder? Are you able to confirm which tracks are definitely Lanethan songs? I suspect the following may be by Lanethan:

    cave.mid
    CRYSTALC.MID
    DEATH.MID
    Tropical.mid
    LASTWAR.MID
    GAME1/2/3.MID
     
  12. Kanta

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    WAROFT~1 is extremely familiar, but I can't place my tongue on it. Kind of sounds like the theme to a spy movie?
     
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  13. Thothie

    Thothie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator Developer

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    cave.mid - Yes
    CRYSTALC.MID - No
    DEATH.MID - No
    Tropical.mid - Yes
    LASTWAR.MID - No
    GAME1/2/3.MID - No
    WAROFT~1 - No
     
  14. TheOysterHippopotami

    TheOysterHippopotami Adventurer Source Developer Developer DarkTide RiP

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    Good to know, thanks. What about:

    AIRY.MID
    ASTRALMY.MID
    BURNCIRC.MID
    spirit.mid
    symphony2.mid
    wellhowd.mid
    worldbeauty.mid
    YUNQUE.MID (sounds like it reuses melodies from Lastwar.mp3????)
    serene.mid

    Almost all of these seem to use lanethans signature 'loop'n'layer' technique to varying degrees.

    Also, just to clarify for the record, you (Thothie) did indeed create SPIDERS.MID, correct?
     
  15. Thothie

    Thothie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator Developer

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    Jebus Christov, what all did we put in there?

    No to all of those. Actually, at least two of those used to come packaged with Windows 95/98 or ye old Sound Blaster cards, and a few were created before Lanethan was born (or at least before he could type).

    (Also Lastwar and Yunique are created more than a decade apart, and thus, presumably, unrelated. Probably Pachelbel syndrome.)

    Sorta, though it's not a wholly original composition so much as recreated, unlike Demon16/21 (assuming that's in there somewhere, though it was intended more as a set of test tracks that got loosely tied together).
     
  16. TheOysterHippopotami

    TheOysterHippopotami Adventurer Source Developer Developer DarkTide RiP

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    Who is Jagex? Was he an early msc player/dev?

    What is SPIDERS.MID recreated from? And to be clear, you are the author of DEMON16T.MID and DEMON21T.MID?
     
  17. Thothie

    Thothie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator Developer

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    He used to put together music tracks for old DOS games by request on AOL. Lost track of him by the time MSC came about.

    I linked my entire midi library, which is nearly 200MB of stuff dating back to the 80's (some converted from a TSR-80 CoCo or CMI's) which was impressive at the time, and told the team to pick and choose (this is before I was on said team). I guess I never noticed all the odd stuff that ended up in there (or I've just forgotten).

    Yonder - never got around to going beyond a single instrument track version (the DOS MIDI software I tended to use stopped being viable after Pentiums came out, and I never really picked up anything new to go back and fix it).

    Demon16T is largely mine, the 21T is enhanced by an old e-friend, Walthius, who I believe is no longer with us. It's a mish-mash of test riffs tied together with an undertrack, designed to run through every instrument on the SBpro (21T for the SB16). Dates back to the early-mid 90's. (No idea why that'd end up in a fantasy music collection, kinda ended up a retro-pop piece.)
     
  18. TheOysterHippopotami

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    You mean the legendary keyboard wizard Michael Walthius of "Magic Travels" fame? I believe he is indeed still with us:

    http://www.thekeyboardwizard.com/
     
  19. Thothie

    Thothie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator Developer

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    That... Could be him... I was never clear if Walthius was his handle or his real name, but the midi mail group was shut down with an announcement that he had passed on made by his sister, so if it is him, we all got hornswoggled. Walthius always seemed to suffer from ESL though (think he was Norwegian), so I'd be guessing not the same guy. (Also always seemed more interested in the technical aspects than composing, and would probably be in his 70's or 80's now.)
     
  20. TheOysterHippopotami

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    Interesting. I discovered this "Michael Walthius" fellow years ago via the MagicTravels.mid file that's in the ye ancient midis folder. He has quite a few catchy tunes, all of which make me think it's 1993 again at the very latest.





    Edit: confirmed

     
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  21. Thothie

    Thothie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator Developer

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    1993 would be about right, before 95 to be sure, but that's one heck of a build up from that old diagnostic track. I might drop him a line and delicately ask why he checked out - I suppose it wouldn't be the only time I've seen something like that. Blackchip would be glad to know he's still around, if he doesn't already, but aside from him, I've lost track of the scene since 98 or so.
     

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